Wow, when I bought this domain, I really never thought diesel fuel or gasoline would get that high.

Now we see fuel prices pretty close to that and in many places exceeding $3.  

I'm a cheapskate at heart I guess, and I've had a 30 year interest in alternative energy sources.  Why, I even wrote my Senior Term Paper about Alchohol Fuel!  If I remember right the title was "Alchohol, the Next Major Fuel Source".


Anyway, about 10 years ago when diesel fuel started approaching $1.50 or so I decided to look at alternatives.  I knew that Rudolph Diesel invented the diesel engine to run on vegetable oils.  Of course the modern diesel engine is a little different than what he had, but not that much.  

So I made some BioDiesel.  That worked fine, but it involved buying lye and methanol, and in the end it cost some money to make.  

Then I started looking at running Waste Vegetable Oil (WVO).  In my pre-Powerstroke Ford, it's a simple matter of filtering it down to 10 microns and making sure the oil is at least 180 degrees when it hits the injectors. Not too tough, but does take some effort.


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Hydrogen Generators

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As you may know have had a long interest in Alternative Fuels.  With the current Gas Price situation my interest has been reignited (no pun intended).

Well I have spent a few days learning and reading about Hydrogen Generators, or more accurately Hydroxy Generators.  It is fascinating!!!

I am going to be building a unit for my motorcycle first.  Stay tuned for more information here.

If you are interested in seeing some of the information that I am using you can see it here.


Hydrogen Generator Book

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Richard A. Chapman said:

Ive been working on hydrogen systems for 12 volt low amperage for years. I'm on my 32cnd prototype. Ive now have the design that works. I use a 12 volt to 120 volt inverter then conect a constant 5.6 volts at 20 amps output coils from a battery charger pack that feeds the power to my generator. The generator consists of stainless steel pipes and electromagnets. Dual feed negitives and dual positives in the middle of the magnetic field. The hydrogen and Oxygen are separated. I release the oxygen , good for the enviroment and extract the hydrogen via vacume pump to a pressurized container. The hydrogen is introduced to the combustion chamber with a modified natural gas conversion kit. I still use Gasoline along with it for the lubrication factor. The unit gets a little warm so I have an inline grundfos circulator contected along with a heat exchanger and axial fans that operate off of thermostats and maintains the temp at about 110F. In full operation the unit operates automatically on a pressure switch and maintains the system at 90 PSI. My container is a used oxygen bottle with extra valves. Everthing is run thru a second battery system that is charged by the same source the powers the Generator. Self sufficient. I had to upgrade the viechle battery and Alternator. All my wiring is double oversized. So I dont get any heat problems. I know Im not giving much details but the results are as follows. I have a Auterra DBII computer system. The first unit has been on my 2002 Ford F150 Full size * foot bed. V8-4.6L Automatic. Before any mods I was getting 15.6 Mpg. I addition to The hydrogen I added Royal Purple Oil. Synthetic. Iriduim Spark Plugs Bosch. K&N Filter System. and a separate Acetone & Xylene injector. This is a contained vapor injector using a air pump into the intake before the throttle body. Not much just enough to assist atomization. I also tapped in the Fuel injector system and control only the input of gasoline. Of course lowering fuel input and replacing it with pure Hydrogen. It doesnt take much of either. Im now getting constantly 31-32mpg city. 41-45 mpg hwy. Varies depending on the amount of mountains and uphill climbs. I could never spin my 31.5" tires until I put the Hydrogen to work. This is not only flammable its explosive.thats why I say it dosent take much. I really piss off the local kids when I increse my hydrogen input and blow there little hot rods away. Of course that lowers your mileage a little but its fun. Im now working on a system for a f250 with a V10 thats getting 10mpg. Im shooting for 30 mpg on it Ill let you know how it goes. Im an electrical Eng. And my buddy thats in on this with me is a chemical Eng. Our electrolite is differant than anything in use by anybody. Mine is a patentable design. Its differant and a little costly but 90-160% fuel saving is worth a little investment. Oh yea forgot to mention the operating cost is about .004 cents per mile once the system is installed. Keep working guys or you could wait and buy one of my units. Ive got backing and facilities. This is no joke just my way of showing off. Im proud Dude.

Anonymous said:

I am building a hydrogen system now for my cars. So far so good. Getting 30% fuel improvement so far but going to double up the system and see if that will do what I think. As far as the guy that said it started to boil. You had a short in the system is why it boiled the water. My water runs at 105 degrees tops. The real problem I am having is the system wiring getting hot. It seams to be connected to the amount of hydrogen I am producing but I do have it running cool with a .5 liter per minute of Hydrogen production. Anyone have an idea how I can increase hydrogen without getting hot at the post of the unit?

Perry

ROB BROGIOLO said:

I'm also a cheap skate and I don't like been ripped off by greedy oil companies. Also I like to experiment with things i built a hydrogen generator when I was at school but i found that it only lasted very short time before it boiled and created steam instead and that was as far i got. Now many years later I can see the potential for something practical and I would like to get involved. I would like to fit it to my Land Rover since is too costly to run on petrol it cost 1100 rand to fill and only does 600 klm so I seldom us it. I have a engineering shop in Durban south Africa and i would like to keep in touch . Regards Rob

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Centrifugal Filter

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I found a great Centrifugal fuel filter.

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Hey guys I been doing this for years. But i'm still having trouble figuring out a good way to stop using filters filtering oil, and want to build a good centrifuge that requires only emptying out and wiping it clean. Thought of using just a simple paddles that rotate near the top of say a 45 gal drum. Run it for several hours then thought of letting it settle out and stop spinning. drain off the top part and see what it would be like. Anyone tried this?
Anyhow if your interested here's a thought of different sorts. Been doing research for constant magnetic acceleration energy. And came across some information that everyone should know. Darn meat heads in power got a problem, think they are going to take it out on innocent victims. Check out www.ClimateChangeMagneticEnergy.com/anotherway Think that's the page, But i'm sure you'll find it.

Paul said:

I am looking forward to summer again so I can start running Veggie again.

Paul

kim klementis said:

possibly make some hydrogen generators and add hydrogen to the fuel to get some more distance out of your expensive fuel. You can make them or buy them from stuff around the shop. the internet is full of information to make this...KK

Dawn said:

This post is inspiring, fresh and ultra awesome! You have a very progressive looks. Reading this blog is a great pleasure.

Xaray said:

Can this type of fuel be run in a Volkswagon Diesel? I'm thinking of converting, but not sure whether it would work -

David said:

Yes Laura, The Veggie Oil needs to be heated up in order to thin it out so that it will flow smoothly through the fuel system. What I did was to make a system of Heat Exchangers that my Waste Vegetable oil flows through till it reaches the injector pump. At that point it should be up to 180 degree F.

David

Laura Author Profile Page said:

Vegie oil has to be heated to run in a diesel engine, right?

How high does the temperature have to be to run smoothly, without gumming up the works? And how do you get it that high?

David said:

I have been using WVO (Waste Vegetable oil)for about 8 years now in my truck. That is one reason that I am glad I am burning Veggie, it is more lubricating. With the new Low Sulfur Diesel, I think that we may be seeing more issues with injector pumps and injectors. I am thinking that the Veggie will help with lubrication.

As a side note, I too run Amsoil in my truck with the bypass filter system.

David

Bob said:

Well, there is not alot of information here, but what there is is informative.

I am wondering about if using BioDiesel or WVO causes any problems as far as lubrication goes. I no that the new low sulfur diesel is less lubricating, so what about Waste Veggie and BioDiesel? I have always used a good synthetic oil, namely Amsoil. Now with the lubrication issues with the low sulfur diesel, I am considering using Amsoil fuel additive, to help. But id Waste Vegetable oil is very lubricating, maybe that is a good option too.

TIA

Bob

Jack said:

I too have heard about running gas and diesel cars on wood gas, really intriguing, but not to practical for our day, especially with pollution issues in the forefront.

Now when it comes to using waste veggie oil, I kinda like that idea, after all there is a fast food restaurant on every corner making waste vegetable oil for us then, right.

I have heard some horror stories about operating a diesel engine on straight vegetable oil though. Some of the problems having to do with starting, but more to do with the possibility of ruining the engine from cold start on Straight Veggie oil and Polymerization. Any comments on that?

Jack

Aussie said:

I have been noticing alternative methods of fueling vehicles for decades. It is really a shame that big oil has us all convinced that we need them.

I the forties in Europe cars were powered with Wood gas,a very interesting process.

Rudolph Diesel invented the Diesel engine to operate on peanut oil of all things, of course a diesel engine will run on almost any animal or vegetable oil, used or virgin. The problem in operating modern diesel engines on Waste Vegetable oil is not so much the oil, but the modern Diesel Engine has much tighter tolerances than Rudolph Diesel ever concieved. Also, the sensors in modern Truck Diesels get confused with the Waste Vegetable Oil, and that causes some issues.

Never-the-less a pre-Powerstroke Ford truck is a very good candidate for conversion. Another Excellent waste Vegetable Oil conversion Candidate is the mid-80's Mersedes Diesels. The Bosch Injector Pumps on the Mercedes Diesels are a very good Injector Pump for Waste Vegetable Oil Conversion.

Aussie

John said:

These fuel prices are crazy. If there was a way that I could power my truck without diesel fuel, I would. what about using old used cooking oil, I have heard that can be put into a diesel engine. Or of course biodiesel, but that sounds comlicated Sounds scary, but not any more scary than putting over $100 in the tank on a fill.

Help

John

Paul said:

I would like to learn more about Waste Veggie Oil and BioDiesel.

Paul

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